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MaZO
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My torrents are deleted again |
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Hello,
Recently I faced deletions for my torrents althought I didn't break any rule I suppose. The latest remembered torrent deleted is 300 DVDRip. I am 100% sure I didn't break any rule. Can I know what is wrong this time ??
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j3lly
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MaZO
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sublimedingo
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That Neptune release is good quality but it is not a Dvdrip. Your not doing anyone in the torrent community any favors by just renaming someone else's release and calling it your own.
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| Sat May 12, 2007 4:32 am |
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MaZO
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That Neptune release is good quality but it is not a Dvdrip. Your not doing anyone in the torrent community any favors by just renaming someone else's release and calling it your own. |
I am NOT renaming anything out here. Actually the name of the movie is the actual name the releaser post. lets have a look at the nfo of some deleted torrents.
300 DVDrip :
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IMDB : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425112/
Rating : 8.1
Release date : May 10th, 2007
Format : XviD
Quality : Retail DVDRip
Language : English
Rars : CD1: 49x15mb CD2: 49x15mb
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Jealous colleagues conspire to get a top London cop transferred to a small town
and paired with a witless new partner. On the beat, the pair stumble upon a
series of suspicious accidents and events.
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and many more ........ all are DVDRips ( at least that was written by the releaser )
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all are DVDRips ( at least that was written by the releaser ) |
Exactly, but that isn't necessarily true.
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all are DVDRips ( at least that was written by the releaser ) |
Exactly, but that isn't necessarily true. |
So how would you know its not a dvdrip just few minutes after its posting ?? I suppose you didn't watch to judge. Those releasers have their ways to get a retail DVD before it is out.
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Apparently, from what I can see is... The 300 release was a "repackage" from the person of this thread. It was recieved by them from another torrent, and wasn't renamed, but, the initial torrent up' er named it what it is. Obviously, incorrectly.
In other words, MaZO got the torrent from somewhere else, and just "packaged" the exact thing to torrentbox.
Who would be responsible for improper naming? MaZO, or where he got it from... because what I can see, MaZO just got hit with "torrentbox's" uploading rules, whereas the original poster of the movie, since they didnt post it here, isnt being held responsible for the infringement.
Lets say I downloaded a bunch of Paul Oakenfold albums, and the inital torrents that I got them from, stated they were CDrip. If I was going to "package" them in a different way, and I didnt know the original torrent up 'er maybe got the sources from something other than what they said (CDrip), but I maintained the same naming convention of the original torrents... My guess is, if I up'ed my package torrent to TorrentBox, I would be guilty of making a torrent incorrectly labeled. Right? (I would assume so, because "I" did the up'ing to TorrentBox, and the rules for TorrentBox apply to what I uploaded, not the original I got them from.)
I dont know, I'm trying to sort it out too
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OK lets be a little specific here.
We all know that the legality of torrent distribution is a grey area and has yet to go to any court to be rulled on.
There is a presumption by many that it is illegal to distribute movies.
OK clear so far?
Well one argument is that the bit size is too small to be identified as anything at all let alone copyrighted material, these bits are given and recieved by many not all from or to one source, you still with me?
Now another argument especially regarding DVDs, is we all know in most countries you are allowed to make a backup copy of anything you have purchased, so we could say that copy prevention in any form is illegal, we can also argue that some of us have the knowledge and processing power to overcome that illegal encryption, so we upload ripped DVD Movies for the use of those who can't make their own backup, got the idea.
Now what you can't do is use the above argument for a movie that is NOT AVAILABLE on a retail DVD, it can not possibly be a backup, so uploading it has zero legal argument, so it IS NOT STAYING ON THIS TRACKER IF REPORTED TO US, or if we happen to spot it.
We don't actually look for such content we have enough to do without that, but if its reported via PM or whatever then we will look at it check retail availability and then act.
Also if the actual owners of the movie ask us we will remove it, we won't police the uploads for them but if they do we will comply with their requests.
What we will not do however is ever reveal the details of the uploader.
Now is that clear enough!!!!????
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You are assuming that I posted a torrent containing false info. My question is how they know it is not a DVDRip without watching it. As for me I can't watch all uploading torrents. I feel I am doing a favour for people making these stuff available and I don't deserve that.
Even if I found that the releaser is lying, I can't change the tittle of the movie. I just don't get why not leave the torrent for users to judge whether it needs to be deleted or not.
EDIT: got you Admin. Seems you had bad experiences at the past. I would appreciate a little notification.
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Have you not read my post?
Why are you asking a question which I have already answered. 
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The time taken to write my reply on the previous reply, was more than time taken to reply me. I didnt see your post but I already editted my post if you noticed.
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illogical, now I get it... Perfectly crystal clear to me now... thanks
MaZO, its all legal... As illogical stated, if you were making a backup copy of a DVD, the DVD would "have to be" released to the public. No one can have a backup copy of something that no one can get. Rental or Purchase. The deletion was done because the DVDrip was pre-dating the release of the DVD.
If I up'ed a torrent of The Simpsons Season 50 as a "DVDrip" - I would assume, it would be deleted, because "The Simpsons" dont have a "Season 50" released as a DVD yet. Thus, legally, a DVD would not exist in the public to have a reason to need a backup copy of it.
It's not a question of where you got it, or how "they" got it, just a simple reasoning that "the public" cant have a DVD of something that doesnt exist in the public. I know I would want a backup copy of my Simpsons Season 50 DVD, but one doesnt exist for me to own, thus, how could I have a backup copy of it?
Thanks illogical for the clarification
LC
EDIT: oopsy, I got stuck while you both responded... sorry for the extra traffic... ...end of line...
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OK now we all understand each other I'm locking this and making a sticky of it to refer to in the future.
Also moving it into the rules section.
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